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Old 02-11-2011, 11:18 AM
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I recently noticed that at Rite aid they tax on the price before coupons and are also taxing me on my coupons and up reward. I would like to know if this is correct because when I shop at other stores I am only taxed on the final price after coupons and not coupons as well.
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and are also taxing me on my coupons and up reward
what do you mean? the tax goes up when you add a discount? If that's what you mean then no, that is not right.

Most states charge tax on the gross amount before coupons, and most coupons clearly state that the user is responsible for any sales tax, so no, the tax amount should not be going down as your Qs come off
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It does depend on the state. Are you sure you are not taxed pre q's at other stores?
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:14 PM

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I'm in GA and very very rarely do I ever see my tax change from before I hand them my coupons to when I finish up and pay. Its happened a few times where the tax dropped but that is so rare that I don't even pay attention to what causes it. Never has my tax increased. You get taxed on the price of the items, regardless of how you pay for it (coupons, ups, cash, ect)
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Is it possible that the last item rung hadn't gotten calculated when you looked at the tax. That happened to me once.
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Most states add sales tax AFTER coupons. There are only 7 states that add sales tax before coupons.

For California, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, Ohio and Tennessee citizens, your sales tax will be determined after any discounts from retailer coupons (such as the 20% Bed, Bath and Beyond coupons), but before discounts from manufacturer coupons.
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Most states add sales tax AFTER coupons. There are only 7 states that add sales tax before coupons.

For California, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, Ohio and Tennessee citizens, your sales tax will be determined after any discounts from retailer coupons (such as the 20% Bed, Bath and Beyond coupons), but before discounts from manufacturer coupons.
In North Carolina, sales tax is on the pre-coupon amount also.
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Most states add sales tax AFTER coupons. There are only 7 states that add sales tax before coupons.

For California, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, Ohio and Tennessee citizens, your sales tax will be determined after any discounts from retailer coupons (such as the 20% Bed, Bath and Beyond coupons), but before discounts from manufacturer coupons.

Well this is good info to know! Because I keep seeing that everyone is paying like .07 oop, and no matter what I was doing I was always paying 1.00-2.00 oop in only TAX. So I guess I am one of the lucky 7...seeing as how I live in Ohio.

At least now I dont have to go crazy wondering how to get down to that low oop.
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I could have read something old - I've been up for 36 hours, I'm a bit slow

You can always check your state since it is state by state!
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Most states add sales tax AFTER coupons. There are only 7 states that add sales tax before coupons.

For California, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, Ohio and Tennessee citizens, your sales tax will be determined after any discounts from retailer coupons (such as the 20% Bed, Bath and Beyond coupons), but before discounts from manufacturer coupons.
Not sure where you got that list from but Georgia definitely charges tax before coupons. Example, my RA trip today subtotal= .59, tax=1.99.

however, when I was visiting my DH on TX, if my total was $0 after coupons, I paid no tax either.
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My understanding is that tax is applied to the total before coupons. Either way, though, it's a silly point to debate because even if you think they're taxing you "wrong", it's not like you can sit and debate with a cashier about tax law and ask for a partial tax refund or anything. If you are genuinely concerned that you're getting cheated out of money, though, you could always get ahold of corporate and ask them how the registers in your state calculate it and how they determine the tax.
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:34 PM

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In my experience at RA, the only things that have reduced the tax I have to pay are:

Total Purchase coupons - $5/25, $4/20 etc.
The Heart Healthy $10 ups -they are non-taxable, so they reduce tax as well
The Buy and Save $20 ups - they are also non-taxable and will reduce tax

I always make sure to use them on non-food transactions so that I don't end up paying as much oop Hope that helps!
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It also depends what you are purchasing. Some states charge taxes on medications and/or food, and some do not.
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In my experience at RA, the only things that have reduced the tax I have to pay are:

Total Purchase coupons - $5/25, $4/20 etc.
The Heart Healthy $10 ups -they are non-taxable, so they reduce tax as well
The Buy and Save $20 ups - they are also non-taxable and will reduce tax

I always make sure to use them on non-food transactions so that I don't end up paying as much oop Hope that helps!
I live in NY and tax is definitely pre manufacturer's coupons but after store discounts. I noticed the same thing. The coupons that you listed would reduce the tax. These coupons are Rite Aid promotions and are not being reimbursed by the manufacturers. Rite Aid must be being reimbursed by the manufacturers for the other +UPs and that is why they aren't removing tax. From a tax point of view, they are equivalent to manufacturer's coupons. I think the video coupons also fall into this category. CVS extrabucks used to remove tax but they changed that a while ago. I assume that the made the change because they got into some kind of trouble. The manufacturers must be reimbursing CVS for their extrabucks like they are reimbursing Rite Aid for the +UPs.
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Most states add sales tax AFTER coupons. There are only 7 states that add sales tax before coupons.

For California, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, Ohio and Tennessee citizens, your sales tax will be determined after any discounts from retailer coupons (such as the 20% Bed, Bath and Beyond coupons), but before discounts from manufacturer coupons.

I live in Utah and you are charged sales tax on the original price before coupons. I've only had one instance when a cashier made a mistake and I actually received an item for free with zero tax.
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I live in NY and tax is definitely pre manufacturer's coupons but after store discounts. I noticed the same thing. The coupons that you listed would reduce the tax. These coupons are Rite Aid promotions and are not being reimbursed by the manufacturers. Rite Aid must be being reimbursed by the manufacturers for the other +UPs and that is why they aren't removing tax. From a tax point of view, they are equivalent to manufacturer's coupons. I think the video coupons also fall into this category. CVS extrabucks used to remove tax but they changed that a while ago. I assume that the made the change because they got into some kind of trouble. The manufacturers must be reimbursing CVS for their extrabucks like they are reimbursing Rite Aid for the +UPs.
There are a few CVS qs that reduce tax, usually your quarterly ecb and any ecbs that have to be manually printed, like raincheck ecbs. Those are non-taxable
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"Most" states charge sales tax on the price before man Qs are applied. As we couponers are fond of saying, man Qs are like "cash" as the manufacturer will reimburse the store for the full amount so most taxing jurisdictions treat them as such. Store coupons/discounts are handled differently.

As far as I know the only states that charge after *all* coupons are applied-- Texas, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and Connecticut.

As someone else pointed out, some states treat certain items differently. In NC we pay lower sales tax on food for example.
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"Most" states charge sales tax on the price before man Qs are applied. As we couponers are fond of saying, man Qs are like "cash" as the manufacturer will reimburse the store for the full amount so most taxing jurisdictions treat them as such. Store coupons/discounts are handled differently.

As far as I know the only states that charge after *all* coupons are applied-- Texas, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and Connecticut.

As someone else pointed out, some states treat certain items differently. In NC we pay lower sales tax on food for example.
As a Pennsylvanian, I have to say that's wrong info. We are taxed BEFORE coupons & it remains the same no matter how many Qs I toss over. (Though I have not bothered to see if a store promo reduces tax...)
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As a Pennsylvanian, I have to say that's wrong info. We are taxed BEFORE coupons & it remains the same no matter how many Qs I toss over. (Though I have not bothered to see if a store promo reduces tax...)
Murrysville coupon clipper's sales tax beef against Wal-Mart in court - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

"Pennsylvania Department of Revenue regulations state that a retailer can charge sales tax on the net price after a coupon is used if the retailer can link that coupon to the specific taxable item, said Stephanie Weyant, a spokeswoman for the department."

"Weyant said Pennsylvania is only one of 10 states that provide an exception to sales tax when coupons are used. The state does not mandate that retailers put a system in place to link coupons to an item.

"Meeting the state's requirements, it can be done, especially with today's sophisticated computer systems, and many retailers do it for their customers," she said.

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"Pennsylvania Department of Revenue regulations state that a retailer can charge sales tax on the net price after a coupon is used if the retailer can link that coupon to the specific taxable item, said Stephanie Weyant, a spokeswoman for the department."

"Weyant said Pennsylvania is only one of 10 states that provide an exception to sales tax when coupons are used. The state does not mandate that retailers put a system in place to link coupons to an item.

"Meeting the state's requirements, it can be done, especially with today's sophisticated computer systems, and many retailers do it for their customers," she said.
Hmm... Interesting. It makes me want to check my receipts to see if it is after coupons or before. I'll have to check & report back. Thanks for linking the article for me. I've never noticed any difference pre & post coupons myself.
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"Pennsylvania Department of Revenue regulations state that a retailer can charge sales tax on the net price after a coupon is used if the retailer can link that coupon to the specific taxable item, said Stephanie Weyant, a spokeswoman for the department."

"Weyant said Pennsylvania is only one of 10 states that provide an exception to sales tax when coupons are used. The state does not mandate that retailers put a system in place to link coupons to an item.

"Meeting the state's requirements, it can be done, especially with today's sophisticated computer systems, and many retailers do it for their customers," she said.
I notice about a year ago that Riteaid in Pennsylvania matches the coupon to the product and reduces the sales tax. I recently went to Walmart and the tax was charged pre coupon and since I only bought one item, it was clear that the coupon went with the product or it would not have scanned. Walmart is on the naughty list in my book for their established procedures in regard to sales tax. I commend Riteaid in Pennsyvania for their effort to be more fair in coupon dealings with consumers.

All in all, it depends on state law and established auditing procedures, not one or the other.

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